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Old 07-18-2002, 01:25 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Tony Martin Sabbath fans out there?

The Eternal Idol
Headless Cross
TYR
Cross Purposes
Forbidden

Am I missing one?
Anyway, what is this? An unforgiveable forgotten era of Sabbath greatness here? Sure, Forbidden wasn't the best, but it wasn't all that terrible either. It had some great tracks on that album; Can't Get Close Enough, Rusty Angels, etc. And TYR is probably the closest Sabbath ever got to glam rock with the video for Feels Good To Me and No Stranger To Love from the 7th Star album. I look at them as experimental just as much as Never Say Die and Technical Ecstasy.
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Old 07-18-2002, 01:42 AM   #2
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i think eternal idol is the best one with tony and even though it has only iommi it is a classic.
headless cross has some songs i like some i don't.
tyr i really like for the most part.
cross purposes i had briefly, it wore off quickly this just wasn't sabbath to me.
i never got forbidden because i heard it was really bad and there was always some other cd i wanted more.
i bought the 7th star and eternal idol remasters and they are even better.
like in the liner notes iommi took a lot of heat for carrying on with the sabbath name.
not to mention he probably lost more money than made.
either way tony martin was pretty damn good in places, iommi could have done far worse with another singer.
 
Old 07-18-2002, 01:42 AM   #3
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I like almost everything Martin did with Sabbath, Headless Cross and Eternal Idol are excellent albums. You should also check out Martin's new project's The Cage (if you already haven't) with Dario Mollo. Great trad metal/heavy rock.
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Old 07-18-2002, 01:54 AM   #4
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Old 07-18-2002, 04:26 AM   #5
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Yea, Tony Martin is a good singer. " Too late to say you care, when there's evil in your stare!!!!!! You're lost forever! "
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Old 07-18-2002, 05:11 AM   #6
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After Dio, Martin is IMO definitely the best Sabbath singer.

Headless Cross is a perfect album, great mood and dark atmosphere. Brilliant songs.

But the rest of them are great as well. Lots of very good songs on them - Tyr (for example Anno Mundi, The Law Maker...), Cross Purposes (Cross Of Thorns, Dying For Love, The Hand That Rocks The Cradle...), The Eternal Idol (Glory Ride, Lost Forever...).

Forbidden is the weakest but by no means bad. Can't Get Close Enough, I Won't Cry For You, Rusty Angels... many good songs there too.

And yes - The Cage CD's are very good as well. Tony's voice is in top form. Check them out (but don't freak out when you hear "Life Love And Everything" on Cage 2 ... it's awful. Well, unless you like Backstreet Boys )
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Eternal Idol was a little raw as Tony didn't find his voice at the moment. Headless cross and TYR are metal masterpieces! Tony rules as well as Cozy Powell immortal drumming! In 1990 I though only Painkiller could be as great as TYR. Great heathen atmosphere. Cross Purposes was really good though not perfect unlike awful Forbidden I think Iommi must get together with Tony for the last time instead of wasting his time on MTV shit.
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In 1990 I thoughT, of course. Sorry!
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Old 07-18-2002, 08:14 AM   #9
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Re: Tony Martin Sabbath fans out there?

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The Eternal Idol
Headless Cross
TYR
Cross Purposes
Forbidden

Am I missing one?
Anyway, what is this? An unforgiveable forgotten era of Sabbath greatness here? Sure, Forbidden wasn't the best, but it wasn't all that terrible either. It had some great tracks on that album; Can't Get Close Enough, Rusty Angels, etc. And TYR is probably the closest Sabbath ever got to glam rock with the video for Feels Good To Me and No Stranger To Love from the 7th Star album. I look at them as experimental just as much as Never Say Die and Technical Ecstasy.
Hell yes! Headless Cross is my second-favorite Sabbath album. All the Tony Martin albums are excellent, and extremely underrated. It's a shame no one will give it a second look because Buzzy Osbourne isn't on the albums (even if Tony is a much better singer than Ozzy).
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Old 07-18-2002, 08:50 AM   #10
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Oh yeah, loved the Tony Martin era. He's a class act, coming back and doing Cross Purposes and Forbidden after being kind of pushed aside for the 1992 Dio reunion thing. I've heard that they wanted Tony to fill in when Dio bolted the Ozzy shows, but he couldn't make it over from London.

I also agree his stuff is very underated with Sabbath. Got to see them twice, for Cross Purposes and Forbidden, and the guy is great live as well. Very respectful of the Sabbath legacy.
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Old 07-18-2002, 11:34 AM   #11
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Tony Martin is a great vocalist, although on Forbidden it sounded like his voice was shot. They could have done without using Ice-T on the first song, but Ernie C from Ice-T's band Body Count was producing it.
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Headless Cross and Cross Purposes are fucking killer
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Old 07-18-2002, 10:29 PM   #13
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"Eternal Idol" shows Black Sabbath, namely Tony Iommi, making power metal, an all-out metal assualt. No ballds, just Iommi showing off some fancy licks and Tony Martin delivering a vocal performance for the ages. I really don't consider this a Tony Martin-era release since he was initially hired to come in and sing on the already demoed album (Ray Gillen Demos - way cool, too!). Martin sounds like a man possessed on this one, he hits some impressive notes. My personal favourite in the title track, which is some of the heaviest shit Sabbath ever made. "The Shining", "Ancient Warrior", "Lost Forever" - there's a lot of really heavy and powerful tunes. Love the instrumental, too - shades of early Metallica.

"Headless Cross" is the epitome of evi to me, one of the darkest albums Sabbath ever made. Every song mentions the Devil or Lucifer at least once. The addition of Cozy Powell provided an instant dose of credibility to the band. Martin shows off his writing skills, penning some heavy doomy gloomy tunes. Personals favs. are "When Death Calls", the title track and the mysterious "Nightwing". An underrated classic, one of the heaviest releases from Sabbath post-Ozzy.

"Tyr" was the first non-Ozzy era album I ever heard. I was absolutely freightened when I heard the opening to "Anno Mundi". That was four years ago and today I can honestly say this ranks as one of the greatest albums nobody ever talks about. Probably the best band Sabbath ever had without Geezer in the fold, the Powell-Murray ryhthm section is impressive. Kinda reminds me of Malmsteen with all the Viking thematics. Iommi delivers another gem, completely different from anything the band had ever done before. An asset to any metal collection - Tony Martin stands up to the Sabbath challenge and then some. "The Sabbath Stones", "Jerusalem" and the "Valhalla" trilogoy are especially impressive.
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Old 07-18-2002, 11:04 PM   #14
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I love the Tony Martin era. KILLER STUFF.
I especially love Eternal Idol and Headless Cross the most.

I got to see the Headless Cross tour and it was something special to see Cozy up there with Iommi and Martin.
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